Data sheet: Canon FL 85 mm f/1.8

Pekka Buttler, 08/2022

Pictured: Canon FL 85 mm f/1.8

Specifications

The table below summarizes the lens’ key specifications:

Brand:CanonLens nameFL 85mm 1:1.8
Focal length 185 mmAngle-of-view 229 °
Maximum Aperturef/1.8In Production1964-1970
Lens mountCanon FLSubfamily (if applicable)––
Length 357,6 mmDiameter 464,6 mm
Filter ring diameter58 mmWeight393 grams
Lens element count5Lens group count4
Aperture blades (S/R/C) 58 SFocus throw210 °
Minimum focusing distance100 cmsMaximum magnification1:10
Has manual aperture ringYESHas Manual focus ringYES
Aperture mechanism typeAutomatic / PresetAperture click stops 61.8-2.8-4-5.6-8-11-16

Further notes:
• Canon FL lenses typically have their aperture control ring mounted at the front of the lens.
• Alike most early Canon FL lenses, the lens is not only an auto-aperture lens. While it can act as an auto aperture lens (and indeed does so whenever mounted on a Canon FD camera or Canon FD adapter that has its aperture pin activated), it can also act as a preset lens (see below).
• Users and prospective owners may be calmed by knowing that this isnot one of those Canon FL lenses that are difficult to adapt as it does not have ‘the bulge
• The T-60 is the dedicated lens hood for this lens.

Both images, from top: 1) Front of lens with white dot to indicate aperture ring selection; 2) Aperture selection ring (silver); 3) Preset ring; 4) Focus ring
Left image: The white dots line up, preset not engaged (diaphragm stops down only if commanded by lever on lens mount).
Right image: The dots do not line up, preset is engaged (diaphragm stops down independent of lens mount).

History of Canon FL lenses

Canon is undoubtedly one of the great names in 35 mm SLR photography. Ever since the 1959 introduction of the Canonflex – Canon’s first interchangeable lens SLR – Canon has constantly focused on being at the forefront of Camera innovation. Often this has necessitated taking stock and redesigning both cameras, lenses and lens mounts. Unlike its archival Nikon, Canon has not tried to integrate all novel features in the same lens mount, but has instead repeatedly launched new, modified mounts to facilitate new features, while still often (but not always) managing to maintain a decent degree of backwards compatibility.

In short (a longer version is here), the development of Canon SLR mounts can be traced as follows:
• 1959–1963: R-mount 7. Canon’s first SLR lens mount. Breech lock-type mount with aperture automation (camera is able to stop down lens for taking the shot.
• 1964–1970: FL-mount. Breech-lock type mount, physically similar mount as Canon R-mount, but camera-to-lens communication linkages somewhat different. Cannot communicate selected aperture to body (stop-down-metering only).
• 1970–1978: FD-mount. Breech-lock mount. FD lenses compatible with FL-cameras and vice versa. Manual focus lenses that communicate aperture information to camera, hence opening the door for automatic exposure (both shutter priority and aperture priority possible)
• 1979–1986: new FD-mount (a.k.a. FDn). Bayonet mount, backwards compatible with FL and FD mounts. Otherwise, as FD mount.
• 1987–today: EF-mount. Electronically controlled autofocus lenses that use an internal focusing motor. Compatible with previous mount lenses only using an adapter with optics.

While many see the Canon FL mount lenses as risky oddities compared to the subsequent FD and FDn lenses, Canon’s lineup of FL lenses is not to be frowned at as, in many ways, the FL lenses laid the groundwork for the subsequent success of the FD system. Granted, the coating technology is decidedly dated, and the need for stop-down metering is decidedly a hassle on Canon FD bodies, but especially when adapting lenses on mirrorless cameras, Canon FL lenses offer an interesting value proposition

Adapting

NOTE! Unless noted otherwise, the following applies to all Canon FL lenses:

This lens cannot be used natively on any current SLR or dSLRs. To use it in its native environment, you will need a Canon FL or FD-mount film body.

Thanks to being a fully manual lens (manual aperture, manual focus), the lens can be adapted to all mirrorless cameras using a suitable adapter. However, to be able to stop down the lens, you will need to take one of two routes:

1) Acquire a Canon FD adapter and use its ability to engage the FD/FL lens’ aperture control lever, to make sure that the diaphragm’s opening always reflects the aperture ring’s selection.

2) Acquire a Canon FL adapter (or modify a Canon FD adapter by removing its aperture control lever) and instead engage the FL lens’ preset ring before taking a shot.

Moreover, a large range of special adapters (helicoid adapters, tilt/shift adapters, speed boosters) for using Canon FD (And, hence, Canon FL) lenses on most mirrorless systems are available.

Using Canon FL lenses on dSLRs is a possibility, but is not problem free. Thanks to the relatively short flange focal distance of the Canon FL/FD mount (at 42,0 mm, clearly shorter than that of any full-frame dSLR mount), any adapter will necessitate some optics to achieve infinity focus. Again, a Canon FD adapter should work…

Footnotes

  1. Focal length is (unless stated otherwise) given in absolute terms, and not in Full-frame equivalent. For an understanding of whether the lens is wide/tele, see ‘Angle-of-view’. ↩︎
  2. Picture angle is given in degrees and concerns the diagonal picture angle. Rule of thumb:
    > 90 ° ==> Ultra-wide-angle
    70–90 ° ==> Wide-angle
    50–70 ° ==> Moderate wide-angle
    40–50 ° ==> ‘Standard’ or ‘normal’ lens
    20–40 ° ==> Short tele lens
    10-20 ° ==> Tele lens
    5-10 ° ==> Long tele lens
    < 5 ° ==> Ultra-tele lens ↩︎
  3. Length is given from the mount flange to the front of lens at infinity. ↩︎
  4. Diameter excludes protrusions such as rabbit ears or stop-down levers. ↩︎
  5. S=straight; R=rounded; C=(almost)circular at all apertures. ↩︎
  6. Numbers equal aperture values on aperture ring; • intermediate click; – no intermediate click. ↩︎
  7. The Canon-R mount should possibly be renamed to (or referred to) as the Canonflex mount to avoid confusion with the modern mirrorless mount that is sometimes also referred to as the Canon R mount. ↩︎

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